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May 11, 2019

In this episode, Devi chats with Mark Gober about Consciousness and Spiritual Entrepreneurship.  Mark is an author, a Partner at Sherpa Technology Group in Silicon Valley, a former investment banker with UBS in New York, and former captain of the Princeton tennis team where he graduated magna cum laude.

His worldview was turned upside down in late 2016 when he was exposed to world-changing science which suggested that, contrary to mainstream assumptions, consciousness is not produced by the brain. After researching extensively, he wrote An End to Upside Down Thinking to introduce the general public to these cutting-edge ideas -- all in an effort to encourage a much-needed global shift in scientific and existential thinking.

Mark's book has been endorsed by leading thinkers such as former Harvard neurosurgeon Eben Alexander MD, Nobel Peace Prize nominee Dr. Ervin Laszlo, Pixar founder Loren Carpenter, University of Virginia professor of neurobehavioral sciences and Harvard PhD Dr. Ed Kelly, Chicken Soup for the Soul author Jack Canfield, actress Goldie Hawn, and many others (for full endorsement list, see:

Devi and Mark Discuss:

  • The truth about the myth that the brain produces consciousness
  • The impact of the brain on the conscious state
  • 'Correlation' does not equal 'Causation'
  • How the brain and body are related to consciousness
  • Consciousness as the primary aspect of reality
  • The role of consciousness in Spiritual Entrepreneurship
  • Knowing our identity and how we fit into the Universe
  • The set of beliefs that stem from the belief that the brain creates consciousness 
  • Breaking down the structures of separation that get in the way of productivity
  • The impact of the belief that consciousness is non-local to the body
  • The quieting of the mind that is associated with psychic abilities like telepathy, precognition, and remote viewing
  • Psychedelic research 
  • Near-death experiences
  • Quieting the mind for better decision making in business
  • Practices for attracting desired outcomes with others in business
  • Psychokinesis and the random number generator experiments
  • Setting strong intentions
  • The brain is the limiter of our perception
  • The witnessing state
  • What is "it" that is having the experiences in our lives?
  • Allowing stress to be a trigger to pull us back into the "witness state"
  • Sensory deprivation tanks
  • Surviving bodily death and life review
  • Quantum Entanglement
  • Identical Twins and Telesomatic events
  • Tuning into other forms of consciousness and energy
  • Highly Sensitive and Empathic perception and consciousness
  • People who have near-death experiences and how they impact electronic devices
  • Acknowledging that our identity is tied to our consciousness and not our mind and body
  • Constellation work and group consciousness
  • Collective intention and the Global Consciousness Project
  • The importance of having a genuine intention
  • How we are connected and how what we do to others matters in this physical realm

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Get a copy of Mark's Book An End to Upside Down Thinking: Dispelling the Myth That the Brain Produces Consciousness, and the Implications for Everyday Life on